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I'd appreciate suggestions preferably for open source software for reading in excel (or .csv) files with more than 300 columns.
R (the read.csv function) and SAS (9.2) could not read in the file.

• I'd also prefer not to split the file into smaller files.

thanks in advance.

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Chris Barker, Ph.D.
Publications  Officer - ASA Statistical Consulting Section
&
Adjunct Associate Professor of Biostatistics
- University of Illinois Chicago


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"In composition you have all the time you want to decide what to say in 15 seconds, in improvisation you have 15 seconds."
-Steve Lacy
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Chris, for what it is worth I have had no problem using SAS 9.2 to read in either Excel or csv files with > 300 fields of data.

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David Mangen
Owner
Mangen Research Associates, Inc.
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Original Message:
Sent: 08-13-2013 12:57
From: Chris Barker
Subject: Excel files with more than 300 columns

I'd appreciate suggestions preferably for open source software for reading in excel (or .csv) files with more than 300 columns.
R (the read.csv function) and SAS (9.2) could not read in the file.

• I'd also prefer not to split the file into smaller files.

thanks in advance.

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Chris Barker, Ph.D.
Publications  Officer - ASA Statistical Consulting Section
&
Adjunct Associate Professor of Biostatistics
- University of Illinois Chicago


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"In composition you have all the time you want to decide what to say in 15 seconds, in improvisation you have 15 seconds."
-Steve Lacy
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Raymond Hoffmann
Professor
Medical College of Wisconsin
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One possibility is that you have a blank file/file name.
That has lead to premature termination of the read of a csv for me.
Also check that you don't have any bad/unusual characters;
most of the time that just leads to an underscore,
but could be a problem if it is bad enough.

Ray


Original Message:
Sent: 08-13-2013 13:05
From: David Mangen
Subject: Excel files with more than 300 columns

Chris, for what it is worth I have had no problem using SAS 9.2 to read in either Excel or csv files with > 300 fields of data.

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David Mangen
Owner
Mangen Research Associates, Inc.
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Original Message:
Sent: 08-13-2013 12:57
From: Chris Barker
Subject: Excel files with more than 300 columns

I'd appreciate suggestions preferably for open source software for reading in excel (or .csv) files with more than 300 columns.
R (the read.csv function) and SAS (9.2) could not read in the file.

• I'd also prefer not to split the file into smaller files.

thanks in advance.

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Chris Barker, Ph.D.
Publications  Officer - ASA Statistical Consulting Section
&
Adjunct Associate Professor of Biostatistics
- University of Illinois Chicago


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"In composition you have all the time you want to decide what to say in 15 seconds, in improvisation you have 15 seconds."
-Steve Lacy
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When I read files of that type, I set LRECL as others have suggested, but I use LRECL=4096 (that is a power of two, but I don't remember why I chose that specific value).

I then use SAS code such as I list below.  I tried it with 418 columns to verify it worked.  I am currently using SAS 9.3, but I've used similar code for (much) earlier versions of SAS.

 

filename file1 dde 'excel'sheet1!r1c1:r1c418';

data file;

  infile file1 dlm='09'x notab dsd missover lrecl=4096;

  input x1-x418;

run;

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Michael Morton
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Original Message:
Sent: 08-13-2013 13:05
From: David Mangen
Subject: Excel files with more than 300 columns

Chris, for what it is worth I have had no problem using SAS 9.2 to read in either Excel or csv files with > 300 fields of data.

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David Mangen
Owner
Mangen Research Associates, Inc.
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Original Message:
Sent: 08-13-2013 12:57
From: Chris Barker
Subject: Excel files with more than 300 columns

I'd appreciate suggestions preferably for open source software for reading in excel (or .csv) files with more than 300 columns.
R (the read.csv function) and SAS (9.2) could not read in the file.

• I'd also prefer not to split the file into smaller files.

thanks in advance.

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Chris Barker, Ph.D.
Publications  Officer - ASA Statistical Consulting Section
&
Adjunct Associate Professor of Biostatistics
- University of Illinois Chicago


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"In composition you have all the time you want to decide what to say in 15 seconds, in improvisation you have 15 seconds."
-Steve Lacy
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What error message is SAS returning to you?  Is it possible that there is a Control-Z embedded in the data file?

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David Mangen
Owner
Mangen Research Associates, Inc.
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Original Message:
Sent: 08-13-2013 12:57
From: Chris Barker
Subject: Excel files with more than 300 columns

I'd appreciate suggestions preferably for open source software for reading in excel (or .csv) files with more than 300 columns.
R (the read.csv function) and SAS (9.2) could not read in the file.

• I'd also prefer not to split the file into smaller files.

thanks in advance.

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Chris Barker, Ph.D.
Publications  Officer - ASA Statistical Consulting Section
&
Adjunct Associate Professor of Biostatistics
- University of Illinois Chicago


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"In composition you have all the time you want to decide what to say in 15 seconds, in improvisation you have 15 seconds."
-Steve Lacy
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In a case like this, you need to use some kind of range restriction to control what is read.

You can restrict the rows and columns of the input spreadsheet using

RANGE="sheetname$A3:J22";

in the PROC IMPORT statement. This will enable you to ascertain where the problems are not.

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Paul Thompson
Director, Methodology and Data Analysis Center
Sanford Research/USD
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Original Message:
Sent: 08-13-2013 12:57
From: Chris Barker
Subject: Excel files with more than 300 columns

I'd appreciate suggestions preferably for open source software for reading in excel (or .csv) files with more than 300 columns.
R (the read.csv function) and SAS (9.2) could not read in the file.

• I'd also prefer not to split the file into smaller files.

thanks in advance.

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Chris Barker, Ph.D.
Publications  Officer - ASA Statistical Consulting Section
&
Adjunct Associate Professor of Biostatistics
- University of Illinois Chicago


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"In composition you have all the time you want to decide what to say in 15 seconds, in improvisation you have 15 seconds."
-Steve Lacy
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Chris,

My guess on the SAS side is that it doesn't have a sufficiently large line buffer.  Look in the log window and compare the LRECL= value to the reported maximum record length.  LRECL= must be larger.  If not, increase by adding LRECL= XXXX to the infile statement.  With 300+ columns, my guess is you need ca LRECL=3000 unless each column is much less than 10 characters each.

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Philip Dixon
Iowa State Univ
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In SAS with the .csv file, I would try including these options in the INFILE statement:
  LRECL= (as mentioned by Philip) DSD MISSOVER

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Mark Martin
Siemens Healthcare Diagnostics
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Original Message:
Sent: 08-13-2013 13:21
From: Philip Dixon
Subject: Excel files with more than 300 columns

Chris,

My guess on the SAS side is that it doesn't have a sufficiently large line buffer.  Look in the log window and compare the LRECL= value to the reported maximum record length.  LRECL= must be larger.  If not, increase by adding LRECL= XXXX to the infile statement.  With 300+ columns, my guess is you need ca LRECL=3000 unless each column is much less than 10 characters each.

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Philip Dixon
Iowa State Univ
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Although SPSS is not open source for  the whole package, The I/O DLLs are free if you want to roll your own.

If you send me the files, I'll see if I can read them into SPSS.
How many rows and columns do you expect?
Are the string variables in quotes?




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Arthur Kendall
Social Research Consultants
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Original Message:
Sent: 08-13-2013 12:57
From: Chris Barker
Subject: Excel files with more than 300 columns

I'd appreciate suggestions preferably for open source software for reading in excel (or .csv) files with more than 300 columns.
R (the read.csv function) and SAS (9.2) could not read in the file.

• I'd also prefer not to split the file into smaller files.

thanks in advance.

-------------------------------------------
Chris Barker, Ph.D.
Publications  Officer - ASA Statistical Consulting Section
&
Adjunct Associate Professor of Biostatistics
- University of Illinois Chicago


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"In composition you have all the time you want to decide what to say in 15 seconds, in improvisation you have 15 seconds."
-Steve Lacy
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I tested SPSS and excel with data generated this way.
*create file with 400 variables to see if SPSS can read a 400 variable CSV file.
new file.
input program.
   vector x (400,f3).
   loop id = 1 to 3.
      loop #p = 1 to 400.
         compute x(#p) = rnd(rv.normal(50,10)).
      end loop.
      end case.
   end loop.
   end file.
end input program.
SAVE TRANSLATE OUTFILE='C:\project\test400.csv'
  /TYPE=CSV
  /ENCODING='Locale'
  /MAP
  /REPLACE
  /FIELDNAMES
  /CELLS=VALUES.

I was able to read in the file with excel.
Using theGUI <file> <read text data>
I was able to read the file into SPSS.

See if you can work with the attached files.
the second one was created with
        compute x(#p) = rnd(rv.normal(50000000,10)).

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Arthur Kendall
Social Research Consultants
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Original Message:
Sent: 08-13-2013 12:57
From: Chris Barker
Subject: Excel files with more than 300 columns

I'd appreciate suggestions preferably for open source software for reading in excel (or .csv) files with more than 300 columns.
R (the read.csv function) and SAS (9.2) could not read in the file.

• I'd also prefer not to split the file into smaller files.

thanks in advance.

-------------------------------------------
Chris Barker, Ph.D.
Publications  Officer - ASA Statistical Consulting Section
&
Adjunct Associate Professor of Biostatistics
- University of Illinois Chicago


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"In composition you have all the time you want to decide what to say in 15 seconds, in improvisation you have 15 seconds."
-Steve Lacy
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Hi , I read files that large into sAs all the time. What method are you using to read it in? I might ask on some of the SAs users forums. I would think R could read in a file that large as well. I know I have read some pretty large ones into R as well. I know SAS can easily handle 300 variables and millions of records on the right platform so I agree with Jay that it might be some other problem.


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Laura Kapitula
Assistant Professor
Grand Valley State University
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Original Message:
Sent: 8/13/2013 12:57:01 PM
From: chris.barker@barkerstats.com
Subject: Excel files with more than 300 columns

I'd appreciate suggestions preferably for open source software for reading in excel (or .csv) files with more than 300 columns. R (the read.csv function) and SAS (9.2) could not read in the file.

• I'd also prefer not to split the file into smaller files.

thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------- Chris Barker, Ph.D. Publications  Officer - ASA Statistical Consulting Section & Adjunct Associate Professor of Biostatistics - University of Illinois Chicago --- "In composition you have all the time you want to decide what to say in 15 seconds, in improvisation you have 15 seconds." -Steve Lacy -------------------------------------------

Chris,
Like some of the others that have responded to your question, I also have not yet experienced a problem due to too many columns (in R).

There is one instance when I encountered a problem with a messy large file. The problem was that the text file included text entries with commas and some special characters. I would get an error message that the rows did not have the right number of entries (as R could not parse the entries appropriately). 

It would be helpful to see the error messages that you get (in R or SAS).

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Moni Neradilek
Statistical Consultant
The Mountain-Whisper Light Statistics
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Original Message:
Sent: 08-13-2013 12:57
From: Chris Barker
Subject: Excel files with more than 300 columns

I'd appreciate suggestions preferably for open source software for reading in excel (or .csv) files with more than 300 columns.
R (the read.csv function) and SAS (9.2) could not read in the file.

• I'd also prefer not to split the file into smaller files.

thanks in advance.

-------------------------------------------
Chris Barker, Ph.D.
Publications  Officer - ASA Statistical Consulting Section
&
Adjunct Associate Professor of Biostatistics
- University of Illinois Chicago


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"In composition you have all the time you want to decide what to say in 15 seconds, in improvisation you have 15 seconds."
-Steve Lacy
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There are a couple of tricks for getting R to read in large CSV files, such as specifying the column types so R doesn't have to figure this out itself.

However, a better idea is to look at the R packages for directly reading Microsoft Excel files, in particular the "xlsx" package.  (Also the "read.xls" in my own "gdata" package.)

-Greg


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Gregory Warnes
Owner and Chief Scientist
Gregory R. Warnes Consulting
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Original Message:
Sent: 08-13-2013 12:57
From: Chris Barker
Subject: Excel files with more than 300 columns

I'd appreciate suggestions preferably for open source software for reading in excel (or .csv) files with more than 300 columns.
R (the read.csv function) and SAS (9.2) could not read in the file.

• I'd also prefer not to split the file into smaller files.

thanks in advance.

-------------------------------------------
Chris Barker, Ph.D.
Publications  Officer - ASA Statistical Consulting Section
&
Adjunct Associate Professor of Biostatistics
- University of Illinois Chicago


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"In composition you have all the time you want to decide what to say in 15 seconds, in improvisation you have 15 seconds."
-Steve Lacy
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