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  • 1.  My Accreditation Experience

    Posted 07-30-2013 09:51
    Accreditation is a work in progress.   It is not intended as a certification, but as an endorsement.  Think of the accreditation of academic programs that vary greatly but contain common elements.  It addresses two major problems in my opinion 1) Many people have degrees in related subjects pick up considerable knowledge and expertise in statistics. PSTAT is a way to officially bring them into the statistics profession.  and 2) Experienced professionals need a verification of skills that shows contemporary work.    There are many people with stats degrees who jump off into other careers and don't currently use statistical approaches.    So PSTAT let's someone like me who works as a consultant add some credibility.   

    But as with many outreach programs, it is the people who need it least who seem to take advantage of it.   So outside of the courtroom example, I don't think there is a need for a Director of Statistics to get a PSTAT.     The problem Mr. Tuzov wants to address is how entry level people can show their credentials.   This is something ASA might want to address in the future.

    I just received a letter stating my PSTAT status after a very long process.   The big problem with PSTAT is that is hard for someone in the private sector to put together a portfolio.   We are bound by numerous confidentiality agreements.   Fortunately I had done some projects which I could submit.   If I had worked exclusively in drug development, this would have been hard.   Also ASA has to refine the reference request process.      I would be happy to discuss my experiences offline.



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    Georgette Asherman
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  • 2.  RE:My Accreditation Experience

    Posted 07-30-2013 10:24
    My comment is regarding credentials for entry level statisticians.  I remember what the American Society for Quality (ASQ) did years ago when I started my career.  I wanted the Certified Quality Engineer (CQE) credential, but it required a certain number of years of on-the-job experience in addition to passing an exam.  For those with training but lacking the working years, there was a QEIT designation (Quality Engineer in Training) which I earned by passing the exam.  I later received the CQE credential after sufficient time on the job.

    I am not suggesting an exam for statisticians.  However, there could be a lesser accreditation for newer statisticians where their education and limited project experiences are reviewed.

    I'd enjoy hearing creative suggestions for what to name a starter credential.

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    Mark Martin
    Siemens Healthcare Diagnostics
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  • 3.  RE:My Accreditation Experience

    Posted 07-30-2013 10:37
    Hi Mark,

    The Wildlife Society has a Certified Wildlife Biologist program and  an Associate level certification for people who do not have the experience, but have the other credentials (e.g., course work).  

    http://joomla.wildlife.org/index.php?id=39&option=com_content&task=view


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    Richard Erickson
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    Texas Tech
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  • 4.  RE:My Accreditation Experience

    Posted 07-30-2013 20:24
    Here in Australia, the Statistical Society of Australia has accreditation for statisticians with an appropriate degree and experience. (AStat). We also have a lower accreditation for recent statistics graduates who do not yet have the necessary experience (GStat). SSAI also provides accreditation for university courses in statistics.

    http://www.statsoc.org.au/what-is-professional-accreditation.htm

    Cheers,

    Simon Blomberg.

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    Simon Blomberg
    Lecturer and Consultant Statistician
    University of Queensland School of Biological Sciences
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  • 5.  RE:My Accreditation Experience

    Posted 07-30-2013 11:22
    Hi Mark:

    The Canadian model (SSC) has an A. Stat. (Associate) designation and tries to link that to the mentoring programme.  This provides guidance along the way for developing the requisite skills for the P. Stat. (SSC)

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    Janet McDougall
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