The ATS resume readers don't do well changing from a teaching position to a non-teaching position. So, most of my applications get removed as soon as I apply.
The last in person interview I had, which was over a year ago, the hiring person wanted to know why I was giving up on teaching at a college level. They decided I should stay in academia.
At a couple other job interviews I had, there were some discussions about does programing with SQL in a Oracle or SQL Server count as using SQL in Python, SAS or R. I say yes. Because I am right. They got it wrong and said no.
Add on top of that, a lot of the non-academic positions by me have all sorts of silliness that they hiring managers believe is true. (Data scientists need to 10 years of programming experience in every known language except Python and R, right?) And that is for an "entry level" job.
Some of the jobs I've applied to in an Institutional Research department don't care that I've given talks about how to model student success and making significant positive changes is both easy and quick ROI. They care more about using their software systems and less about doing the analysis well.
I've applied to several statistical consulting jobs in my area. Especially at hospitals. But, my masters degrees are in applied math and applied stats. My bachelor's degree was a double major in Biochemistry and Physics. But, the hospitals don't want someone with real subject matter expertise.
On the other hand, I get an interview about 80% of the time when I apply for an adjunct teaching position. 0% with the full time positions. So, I have options.
Original Message:
Sent: 04-18-2024 17:32
From: Jonathan Siegel
Subject: Ethics in teaching
I'm going to ask a question. Why are you working for these people? You have valuable skills and talents that could be put to productive use. Why waste them furthering the aims of people whose values you quite reasonably despise?
As a person in a leadership position, you might be in a position to try to change things. But you aren't. So why not simply leave? I think it's greatly self-damaging to continue to work for these people. In order to justify continuing working for them, you have to lie to yourself that you are trapped, that you somehow can't help it. To do that, you have to continually demean yourself and your skills and your self-worth and your sense of integrity. If there's anything lowering your value, it's that. Why not take this as an opportunity to work for people you can respect?
As Josh Groben and Cirque de Soleil once put it in "Let Me Fall," you have to trust that "The one I want, the one I will become will catch me."
W. Edwards Deming had a lot to say about this whole situation. He opposed grading in school, saying grades simply make people game the system to focus on getting better scores rather than learning. He opposed ranking schools, saying that ranking encourages schools, among other ills, to artificially up their graduation rates and other numbers rather than to focus on giving students a good education.
And he opposed students rating professors while in school, saying that professors should only be rated by alumni 10 or more years after graduation, because only then will students be in a position to know the value of what the professor is teaching. How can students possibly know whether the material will help them in life, or what its value will prove to be, while they are taking the course? All they can tell is things like whether the professor has a pleasing lecture style. One might as well rate medicine by how pleasing it tastes while one is taking it. The best medicines long-term are often not the ones that taste the pleasantest at the time they are administered. As with medicine, so with learning, and with professors.
This is not to say you are obligated to be a purist about these things.
But once you are in a situation like the one you report, where students are openly engaging in and the administration is openly condoning out and out fraud to the point of punishing those who report it, based on student comments complaining about objections to cheating, this is ust not a healthy place to be. Look for another job. Whether you give the administration another chance and report this first or not is up to you. Looking doesn't hurt even if the administration comes through this time and you decide to stay.
I don't in any way recommend lawyers as a way to resolve disputes. But this time, you might want to consider talking to one.
My comments here are entirely my own.
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Jonathan Siegel
Director Statistical Sciences
Bayer US Pharmaceuticals
Original Message:
Sent: 04-17-2024 14:55
From: Andrew Ekstrom
Subject: Ethics in teaching
Because of how I am teaching, it's all done online. I give them several days to do the exams too.
When I teach certain classes in person, I'll make say 2 versions of the exam. Same questions. Just different orders.
Since I just change some numbers on my exams, like X1= 5.54 on an early exam and X1 = 4.55 on the later exam, it's easy to see who cheated.
I have videos for all of my students to watch. I allow them to use those videos and notes, calculator, etc, to do the problems. Plus, about 30% of the exam is opinion based. So, it's less stress than it could be. I give partial credit if the numeric answer is in the ball park. So, it's possible for a student to get every math problem wrong, and still get about a 70%.
The previous time I spoke up about students cheating, I warned the class about what happened. I was berated for that. The students that did cheat, literally just changed the name on the top of the exam. Everything else was verbatim. I told the dean, I'd give credit to the person that did the work, if the other person admitted they cheated and fail the student on that exam that did cheat. (I could have failed them for the course and possibly had them kicked out of the university with their transcripts locked. So, I figure I was lenient. )
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Andrew Ekstrom
Statistician, Chemist, HPC Abuser;-)
Original Message:
Sent: 04-17-2024 11:02
From: Stephen Simon
Subject: Ethics in teaching
There are many possible solutions to this problem. These are only partial solutions, and you may or may not like some of them. But at least consider them.
1. Write the exam in such a way that it is difficult to cheat. You've written before about giving each student a different subset of the data. It takes time and energy, but wouldn't that be better than the time and energy you have already expended devising your traps?
2. When you catch student cheating, just give them a warning. If you catch them again, then give them a penalty, but not so much of a penalty as to ruin their career. Maybe require them to complete an independent test or assignment that no one else gets. I've always thought that cheating policies are much too draconian.
3. Do what Deming did. Tell everyone at the beginning of the class that they are all getting A's. That removes the incentive to cheat. I know that you can't do this, but it is worth noting anyway. I love teaching, but I hate grading. Not because it takes too much time, but because it doesn't help the students learn any better. If anything, the anxiety that grading produces makes it harder for students to learn.
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Stephen Simon, blog.pmean.com
Independent Statistical Consultant
P. Mean Consulting
Original Message:
Sent: 04-16-2024 01:37
From: Andrew Ekstrom
Subject: Ethics in teaching
Suppose that you give your students an exam. In that exam, you put several traps to find out if students are cheating. Then you find several of those students are cheating. It is certain without question.
If I decide to talk to the Dean or my Department Head about the cheating, there will be a "trial" and it would be possible that students will fail the class. But, until that point, the accused students will continue to be students in my class and able to write bad reviews for me in the "student evaluation" section. Since the student evals are anonymous, I can't have those bad evals removed. Since some of my dept heads believe a 3.2 out of 5 with 6 (or so) evals is sufficient evidence of poor performance, a "1.8" with 8 evals would essentially mean I am fired or "unassigned" from that university.
Even if I wait until after class is over or the trial proceeds and concludes before the end of the term, the students can still go to RateMyProfessor, which future students will see and can hinder my ability to get enough students to enroll in a class I teach.
Since I am an adjunct lecturer, my annual salary is generally so low that I qualify for Food Stamps and Medicaid. A loss of a class would potentially get me partial unemployment in some semesters.
Last time I turned in students for cheating, the only thing the dept did was complain that half of my evals were 1's. I caught 6 students cheating and I had 7 or 8 1's. Some students that gave me the 1's complained in the open response area about how I was horrible because I caught them cheating and ruined their 'academic career'. (The dept didn't care that the cheaters rated me poorly.) For the next 3 semester's after that, my "overall" rating was too low. And, there were consistent comments about how I had such a really bad first semester. Reporting those students cost me about $100,000 in lost wages.
Which leads me to a decision. Do I turn in these students and suffer for THEIR actions. Or, do I decide to do everything I can to keep the teaching assignments I have and not do anything?
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Andrew Ekstrom
Statistician, Chemist, HPC Abuser;-)
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