Phd in Mathematics is essential nevertheless it is not a must unless one wants to take up a teaching or researching role in a tertiary institution. In the world of academia Phd is of a high priority but in the business world Phd or other terminal degrees are a plus not a priority since the business world value work experience much more than terminal degrees. It is likely that Phd in Mathematics in the early days had one or a few concentrations (correct me if I'm wrong) but presently Phd in Mathematics have a lot of concentrations/specializations ranging from abstract mathematics(such as topology and complex analysis) to applied Mathematics in the business and engineering fields. Phd is still essential nevertheless Mathematicians who work in the business field tend to focus on attaining the high professional qualifications/certifications rather than the highest academic qualification.
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Kofi Ansong-Dwamena
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Original Message:
Sent: 10-14-2015 02:07
From: Andrew Ekstrom
Subject: Ph.D.s in Mathematics
I would be interested to know what you mean by PhD in Mathematics? I know that sounds like a funny question. But, there is a point to it. Suppose I want to get a PhD in Operations Research. Some universities will offer OR as an area of specialization/research in the math department. Some offer it through the business school. Many usually offer it through the Industrial Engineering department.
I also saw a PhD in mathematics where the specialization was atmospheric sciences or physics. Speaking of which, Brian Greene and Stephen Hawking are both physicists with academic appointments in math departments.
Some universities offer a PhD in Applied Mathematics, a PhD in Mathematics and a PhD in Statistics. Meanwhile, another student taking the same courses from another university will get a PhD in Mathematics.
I know some people that have MS degrees in computer science that consider themselves mathematicians and some PhD mathematicians that consider themselves computer scientists (cuz it pays more).
Which is why I ask.
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Andrew Ekstrom
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Original Message:
Sent: 10-12-2015 10:53
From: J. Dobbins
Subject: Ph.D.s in Mathematics
Hello,
I just saw an announcement for a job on the AMSTAT email system for which a Ph.D. in Mathematics would qualify.
Since I am retired I have no interest in the job but I wondered about something. Perhaps, some one would be interested in
updating me on this.
I got a Ph.D. in Mathematics in 1969 in the money days launched by Sputnik in 1957 and culminating in 1969 with our landing on the moon
and discovering the earth.
While their were jobs in Mathematics teaching until then, the market closed and you began to hear Ph.D.s were a "dime a dozen" and people driving taxi cabs.
Of course, I am being general and making a sort of broad statement about conditions.
However, I think in many areas, Math in particular, the market has always been tight ever since then. I moved on to the business work and had a much more interesting life, at least for me, so I am grateful for a life of rich experience. I had expected to teach Calculus at least 120 times but stopped at about 40 counting part time evening jobs.
Nevertheless, I would guess the Math depts.. and others are still going full production teaching everything from Numerical Analysis to Watermelon Theory and importing students to listen to the professors. This I would say is true in a broad area of science and engineering. I conjecture the bill for this is largely footed by the American citizens.
Any comments? In particular, is my general impression correct about Math Ph.D. market? I think today the successful young person must have a combination of Mathematics, Statistics and Computer Science and particularly Database and SQL knowledge. Many universities have long recognized this and have practical, job focused programs combining these areas. SAS sponsors a program like this in some universities and I am sure the movement is more general.
Greg Dobbins