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  • 1.  Good journals, junk journals.

    Posted 11-25-2019 14:00
    Dear all,

    About 2-3 times per week, I get an email invitation to submit an article to some journal. They virtually always seem to be part of a mass mailing, though sometimes they cite one of my co-authored articles.

    I have read in Science about junk journals that are, basically, profit-making scams. Science also reported about an experiment where someone submitted a "junk" article to about 30 different journals (relatively new journals, I think), and most of them accepted the article.

    Question: how do you tell the good from the bad?

    Just before this email,  we all received a nice invitation that seemed good! Felicity is in our group and she gave a nice link for us to have a look at the journal, provided important information and details, named others who are on this effort, etc. But what about the other invitations that pop up in our inbox? How do we evaluate those?

    Are some of you also getting those frequent invitations? I would be interested to her how you evaluate these invitations.

    Thanks and best wishes,

    Nayak

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    Nayak Polissar
    Principal Statistician
    The Mountain-Whisper-Light Statistics
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  • 2.  RE: Good journals, junk journals.

    Posted 11-25-2019 15:31
    Hi Natak:

    Over the years, I have tried to be supportive of open access journals, as a way to level the playing field. For example, one never knows where the next treatment for cancer will come from and often great ideas originate from remote parts of the world (or the United States) that are not part of the traditional publishing loop.

    Recently, I posted information on the new section "Public Health Statistics and Risk Assessment" of the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health (IJERPH). To give folks some history, this journal has been around since 2004, first as a print-based journal. It was an offshoot of the National Center for Research Resources (NCRR) Research Centers in Minority Institutions funded Symposium in Recent Advances in Environmental Health Research.
    Papers that were presented at this symposium were peer reviewed and published in IJERPH. To help with the day-to-day operations, the EiC of IJERPH researched out to a Swiss based publisher to manage the journal. None of the academic editors are paid, with the work being done on a volunteer basis. 

    I hope this puts things into perspective.  My connection with IJERPH was through my job at the University of Hawaii, which is a RCMI member Institution. I no longer work at the University of Hawaii, but was impressed with the excellent work done by the RCMI and have kept in touch with many of the RCMI folks over the years. The RCMI program has helped many students and junior investigators from priority backgrounds to jump-start their careers and I am honored to have played a small part in this process.

    Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

    Kindly,
    Dr. Jimmy T. Efird
    (650) 248-8282 





  • 3.  RE: Good journals, junk journals.

    Posted 11-26-2019 09:31

    In addition to separating good journals from bad journals, I have problems with reviewers, specifically pretty frequently getting statistically incompetent reviewers. Every couple of months or so a research comes to me with a project with nonsensical reviewers comments needing guidance. For example, one manuscript did not need a Bonferroni Correction as different types of statistical tests (t-test, chi-square, etc.) were being done, only a few variables, we were not interested in controlling type I error, and type II error would be very low, and blah blah blah... Eventually, we just gave-in and did a Bonferroni Correction to satisfy the inept reviewer and move on with our lives and like magic the reviewer accepted it, however he/she was clearly incompetent in how and when to use multiple comparisons, and we didn't know how to handle this situation or who to report it to.

     

    In Europe, they are supposedly starting 'Plan S' open journals. Elsevier has been engaged in lobbying recently and other sketchy practices in recent years and California and FSU canceled their contracts with Elsevier this summer. And a lot of journals seem to want to 'curate' the 'best' articles which isn't their roll, as citations and number of downloads are supposed to do that.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_S

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsevier#Dissemination_of_research

     

    -Matt



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    Matthew Robinson
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  • 4.  RE: Good journals, junk journals.

    Posted 11-26-2019 15:36
    I don't think of journals as bad or good, junk science vs good science. I try to look at the articles themselves. and ask, "Did the author properly analyze their data?"

    In a "respected" journal, I submitted a manuscript where I used a fractional factorial designed experiment. From other reviewers comments, I added a section designing and experiment and referenced a dozen stats textbooks. One reviewer said, "This so-called statistician should know that you can't change more than one thing at a time during an experiment." The other reviewer said, "The writer bored me with a page on using designed experiments. Everyone already knows this material." When I asked the journal editor, I asked, "How do I reconcile their differences of opinion? One says I can't do what I did. The other says everyone already does it this way." Their response was, "Good luck."

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    Andrew Ekstrom

    Statistician, Chemist, HPC Abuser;-)
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  • 5.  RE: Good journals, junk journals.

    Posted 12-02-2019 10:42
    lol DOE wise, a lot of people incorrectly believe they understand DOE's when they obviously don't even understand the basic concept of a statistical interaction. Someone should do a study on this topic. For example, a response surface methodology (RSM)or mixture design. I bet 8+ out of 10 'statistical' reviewers in respectable journals would agree to review a manuscript on the topic but are unqualified to do so and would therefore not provide good feedback and would not take the time to even correctly understand the techniques.


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    Matthew Robinson
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  • 6.  RE: Good journals, junk journals.

    Posted 12-02-2019 12:50
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    Predatory journals exist.  The attached article has a checklist of items to consider for medical journals; similar concepts apply to other fields.

    Todd

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    Todd Coffey
    Chair and Associate Professor of Research and Biostatistics
    Idaho College of Osteopathic Medicine
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  • 7.  RE: Good journals, junk journals.

    Posted 12-02-2019 13:24
    Here is a curated list of fake/predatory journals: https://predatoryjournals.com/journals/. This has links to Jeffrey Beall's original list as well as to an IHE article about predatory journals.
    Brian

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    Brian Yandell
    University of Wisconsin-Madison
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